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Readers' Comments on "MAKE IT A BURNING ISSUE by Jamyang Norbu"
Seventy Tibetans have, one after the other, in relentless and purposeful succession, set themselves on fire for the cause of their people’s freedom. If anything so heroic, selfless, spontaneous, non-instigated, and entirely non-violent*...
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rigdengyalpo  

Location: new york
Subject: now 76 self-flaming protests
Nov 19 2012 01:35 AM

The 2 key issues expressed emotionally by the most protesters during all the painful episodes :

1. "FREEDOM from OPPRESSION "
2. "RETURN OF HH THE DALAI LAMA AS A SPIRITUAL LEADER" from exile.

The realistic question now is how and when could HH Dalai Lama return to Tibet-China during the current uncertainty of Chinese political agenda on Tibet and Tibetans.
Assanga  

Location: MT
Subject: You are playing with words JN la??
Nov 18 2012 10:14 AM

I am quoting this para from JN la's writing. Is'nt he playing with words?

If Phayul and VOA reports are to be believed , " every " immolator called for Dalai Lama's return as the core message, besides some mentioning the word Rangtsan. JN la has turned it upside down. See below:

"What the Tibetan immolators have been calling for is the freedom and independence of Tibet, a message that was clearly put forward in the very recent immolations of two cousins Tsepo and Tenzin, in front of a government building in their village in Biru county north of Lhasa. All reports noted that they “called for independence for Tibet as they set themselves ablaze”. The call for Tibetan independence has also been made on other occasions in earlier immolation though more general calls for freedom (rangwang) have also been made. But most of the calls made have been for “The return of the Dalai Lama to Tibet.” This last slogan has allowed the immolations to be interpreted as essentially an issue of religious freedom which could be settled if China conducted negotiations with the Dalai Lama and allowed him to return."


Tseta  

Location: Canada
Subject: Correction
Nov 18 2012 06:51 AM



Subject: Good writhing with small thoughts!
Nov 17 2012 05:12 AM

I understands that JN is good in writing and he also connects the subject with other stories of the past and present, and makes his article interesting. However I wonder how he easily describes HHDL's return in such a simple way, as if an ordinary Tibetan returning to Tibet in the mid of PLA's and other Chinese forces, he thinks it simple as that. You are aware that His Holiness is our most revered spiritual head, a recipient of Nobel Peace prize and many other prizes, and HHDL is a honorary citizen of some great countries too, moreover a most respected spiritual leader in this world, so who will let him go as simple as you mentioned about?

Above all His Holiness is not an ordinary being who can confidently say that: I will live a long life to certain ages, I am optimistic that HHDL will live more than 100 years of age even though Chinese try their cruel methods to harm him, as they might have tried many times which we don't know.

Every living beings on this planet is getting older when each seconds passes, but aging is not same with every one, e it differs even among each ordinary beings, moreover HHDL is not an ordinary being at all and he has the power over his birth and death unlike the common beings like us. So don't talk like injis on the old age of HHDL.


Unlike any other writers, you are more fond of giving advices and suggestions on HHDL and on TAIE. Please stop doing it again like: your silly suggestions, such as Gandhiji's salt walk or Dhandi march and now suggesting HHDL's personal biographer to hold off writing the final chapter on the Dalai Lama’s political legacy, at least least for the next five years. Who are you to do so? Just watch your faulty writings instead.

You articles can be good to make some fictional stories or may be movies but there is nothing meaningful to uphold and to raise awareness on our common cause. I read some of your articles, some of them are interesting but I see you as more politician than a good writer. During the Shugdhen controversies, you haven't wrote a single article when three of the monks were murdered by the radical groups of Shugdhen, this Shugdhen controversy is linked with many spiritual and political crises in Tibet after 5th Dalai Lama, why you have nothing to say on the issue either good or bad. This means you are not honest and brave enough to do so like our great Geshey Lobsang Gyatso, who challenged and wrote the truth and gave his life for the cause of truth. I can understand that your writing is favored by few because of the silly critics you make. Please be honest and try to be braver in bringing out the real issues for our common cause.
Tseta  

Location: Canada
Subject: Good writhing with small thoughts!
Nov 17 2012 05:12 AM

I understands that JN is good in writing and he also connects the subject with other stories of the past and present, and makes his article interesting. However I wonder how he easily describes HHDL's return in such simple way, as if an ordinary Tibetan returning to Tibet in the mid of PLA's and other Chinese forces, he thinks it simple as that. You are aware that His Holiness is our most revered spiritual head, a recipient of Nobel Peace prize and many other prizes and HHDL is a honorary citizen of some great countries too, moreover a most respected spiritual leader in this world, so who will let him go as simple as you mentioned?

Above all His Holiness is not an ordinary being who can confidently say that: I will live a long life to certain ages, I am optimistic that HHDL will live more than 100 years of age even though Chinese try their cruel methods to harm him, as they might have tried many times which we don't know.

Every living beings on this planet is getting older when each seconds passes, but aging is not same with every one, even it differs among each ordinary beings, moreover HHDL is not an ordinary being at all and he has the control over his existence unlike the common beings like us. So don't talk like injis on the old age.


Unlike any other writers, you are fond of giving advices and suggestion on HHDL and on TAIE. Please stop doing it again like: your silly suggestions, such as Gandhiji's salt walk or Dhandi march and now suggesting HHDL's personal biographer to hold off writing the final chapter on the Dalai Lama’s political legacy, at least least for the next five years. Who are you to do so? Just watch your faulty writing instead.

You articles can be good to make some fictional stories or may be movies but there is nothing meaningful to uphold and to raise awareness on our common cause. I read some of your articles, some of them are interesting but I see you as more politician than a good writer. During the Shugdhen controversies, you haven't wrote a single article when three of the monks were murdered by the radical groups of Shugdhen, this Shugdhen controversy is linked with many spiritual and political crises in Tibet after 5th Dalai Lama, why you have nothing to say on the issue either good or bad. This means you are not honest and brave enough to do so like our great Geshey Lobsang Gyatso, who wrote the truth and have his life for the cause of truth. I can understand that your writing is favored by few because of the silly critics you make. Please be honest and try to be braver in bringing out the real issues for our common cause.
Lobsang59  

Location: ny
Subject: burning issue
Nov 17 2012 02:36 AM

whatever jamyang norbu's shorcomings maybe, one think i can say is that he is only one or one of only few who tell it like it is. other people all beat and beat around the bush not to offend anybody and validate all their alliances and fiendships first and then make a feeble attempt to say a few somethings. it is very tiring. i dont know him at all but his some writting gave me some encouragement and refreshment.i always knew i nver belong to the groupthink and i didnt care if the whole world join the bandwagon, i could never be part of this kind of groupthink even if i tried.so what i'm saying is, i appreciated that part of him and respect that.
tsgyl83  

Location: usa
Subject: WATCH DOG
Nov 16 2012 10:19 PM

Dear Readers: this topic is about the BRAVE IMMOLATERS and what their SACRIFICES stand for.
Let’s not get ‘bent out of shape’ with emotions of ‘natsa ningba’ due to some mention about CG made by the writer of this essay. Please kindly ‘hold your horses’ and re-direct your passion and energy towards the main topic “Tibet Burning”. The writer Jamyang Norbue brings out hard hitting truths that cannot be DEFLECTED towards petty politics or rumour mongering. I especially appreciate his exposing of what I call ‘international conspiracy’ vis-a-vis Tibet & china. The examples given would bypass me in everyday life. There must be other Tibetan related NGOs being similar watch dogs. That’s what we need – watch dogs rather than lap dogs. thanks - Bodh Gyalo and there will be a day when Tibet will be FREE!!
Assanga  

Location: MT
Subject: JN and his obsession with Chushi Gangdruk
Nov 16 2012 10:46 AM

JN la is no doubt a talented writer and opinionator.He has a good following of young readers too. I like visiting his website.

However, his obsession with Chushi Gangdruk bravery-stories is marring his basis of opinion. This may be due to his short stint in Mustang among the Khampas. His formative imaginations seem to be so effectively influenced by bravery stories( mostly borshops)related by the some Khampas that JN la, even to this day can not avoid harping- I repeat harping- about Chushi Gangdruk factor of post-45 history of Tibet.

Tibetan history does not begin in 1940s and does not end in the flight of HHDL into exile. CG's role is confined to this era only.

The successful flight of HHDL was a well planned and perfectly executed work by the core circle of Potala who were close to HHDL. CG did play role,but only in escorting HHDL out of Potala and on way to India.

Regarding post-1945 era of Tibetan history, one must do justice to our history by reading accounts written by Tibetan historical personalities like: Besides My land and my People, Taring Amala, Kasur Kundeling, Kasur Thupten Chokteng Norsang, Kasur Do-nag Tenzin etc. etc. Most of these are in Tibetan language and JN la must wait for an English version.

So to be a successful writer and opinionator, JN la needs to do lots of balancing act.

UdumChen  

Location: Hell
Subject: Response to Assanga and Dralha
Nov 16 2012 01:03 AM

It seems that you two really want HHDL to return to Tibet. I don’t know how you would plan his return, but I am not necessarily opposed to the idea. May be it will bring real changes and progress to the Tibetans in Tibet and much needed momentum to our struggle. Well, you should personally request HHDL to do just that or start a campaign or something.

You two have the right to hope for “Autonomy” and to look forward to living under the benevolent rule of the Chinese Communist Party. But don’t f_g tell me Nyinkar Tashi, who sacrificed his life for all Tibetans shares the same view as yours. Read here…

http://www.phayul.com/news/article.aspx?id=32444&article=Six+million+Tibetans+want+freedom+and+independence%3a+A+self-immolator%E2%80%99s+last+message&t=1&c=1

Don’t tell me that Dolma Tso who offered the ultimate sacrifice and whose father said “Pray for my daughter to be reborn in INDEPENDENT Tibet” shares your view. Whatever these people wanted they clearly DID NOT wanted to live under Chinese rule.
Assanga  

Location: MT
Subject: Hello Udhum !!
Nov 15 2012 05:47 PM

I am quoting the following from your post.


"Let me remind you that HH is not inside Tibet. Nobody is asking or wishing for him to go into Tibet with the country swarming with PLA soldiers. That’s the main point of the article. Tibetans inside Tibet are not fools, they know it is not safe for HH to come to Tibet at this time. Their call for his return is symbolic."

Who said this or is it just your assumption. This is a serious matter. Return of HHDL to Potala palace has been one of Sikyong LS's manifestos. Foreign dignitaries too have have conveyed similar messages to China. You say this is just SYMBOLIC.

To me, the demand for the return of HHDL is an honest one, arranged under international supervision.



Jikten  

Location: Tibet
Subject: Doesn't make sense JN
Nov 14 2012 10:05 PM

I haven't saw any constructive opinion in the writing. JN is critical of Tibetan govt. in exile but failed to mentioned any new idea to do things. He is saying all the things which TGE is already doing. Honestly i don't think it is a time to debate about Independence or Middle way. There are lots of thing we can agree and work together on. The suffering of Tibetans in Tibet, religious freedom, human rights, freedom to learn our own language and return of H.H. the Dalai Lama. Even if you want to debate on the matter, it is quite clear from the number also that only few has shouted slogan for Independence even though the Slogan "Bod Rangzen" is a very common and used slogan in our demonstration. I believe Majority of these heroes has intentionally avoid using the most standard and common slogan. There is a reason for it. Lastly, i have seen a Changed JN. Most of the JN speeches and writing are always bragging about things done by Chusi Gangdruk. I see a very fishing JN on the mater. The fact is nobody is trying to discredit what Chusi Gangdruk has done in the history. During the difficult time of Tibet in 1950's everyone has fought and suffered; some more than others. let me also let you know that My father was also one of main guy in the resistance force. To make the matter more clear, in the history the people of Amdo border region has fought with teh Chinese for hundreds of year; mostly with muslim chinese and those amdowa has suffered immense casaulty. But it will wrong to brag about it or play a dirty politics about it. Finally, my sincere request is let's work together towards all the issue which we agree on during this critical time. Bod Gyalo. His Holiness has already shown his frustration during his speech at Ladakh. Let's not make it worse please.
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