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Readers' Comments on "Thoughts on the future of Tibet"
On the eve of the special meeting of the Tibetan people in Dharamsala, it seems a timely occasion to present to you some ideas about the future course of the Tibetan struggle. The task that lies ahead of us in the coming weeks until...
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inissini  

Location: world
Subject: Jamyang Norbu..wrong leader?
Nov 09 2008 02:41 PM

Dear Indegenous from Geneva,

At least Jamyang Norbu is doing the best he can.
Don't post personal hate message here.
If you have any construcitve comments, you are welcome to air it. But if you dont have, refrain from ad-hominem argument against the person of JN.
It is uncalled for and it reflects badly on Tibetan character, needless your own character.

We Tibetans have a way of ostracizing anyone who deviates even slightly from the mass mentality of the moment.
Our people "murdered Gedhun Choephel" for daring to be different in the 1930s.
If JN were living in the 1930, who know he might have been "murdered" long time ago.
We need to change as a people. We need more far sightedness in our dealings.
tzigs  

Location: toronto
Subject: very thoughtful view
Oct 31 2008 09:02 AM

The author hits right on target on the weakness and sometimes lack of imagination from the Exile Govt. There should be a dateline for the middle way approach,beyond that the Right of Self-determination(SD) would be the goal,though we need to consider the weakness of SD approach in International law/community as well as the power of China is world stage.

If we do take the path of SD,we should start pushing for political/human rights rather than focusing only on cultural/religious rights,because the latter two makes it a weak argument for Self Determination.
Hopefully the meeting comes up with a unified and concrete policy,rather than further concession which will be a sad moment for Tibetan nation.
saber  

Location: Dhasa
Subject: An old wine in a new bottle
Oct 30 2008 04:44 PM

This theory although captivating is nonetheless already explored by the HH Dalai Lama and TGIE before. UN has passed resolutions calling for Tibetan self determination in past.

But first of all one should weight how much the 'right to self determination' under UN charter is legally binding to a state.

Secondly, there are 'outer self determination' which amount to secession and 'inner self determination' which amounts to autonomy with indigenous political representation.

in accord with the current trend of various nations having problem with ethnic, regional, race etc. 'outer self determination' is downplayed. whereas 'inner self determination' has morally m ore stronger voice in international arena.

Now if, self determination is to be called under the constitution of PRC. The only way is to engage in dialogue with PRC with strong international support which HH has been doing.
Tsongi  

Location: U.S.A.
Subject: The Future of Tibet
Oct 29 2008 08:47 PM

The first thing we must do is to stop talking and negotiating with "communist" Chinese, who have reneged on every promise they have made, starting with the 17 Point Agreement, and wait till China become a "true" democratic state. Then, we Tibetan can decide on a course of action befitting the future of our Fatherland. I am convinced that democracy in China will not be too long in coming.

An agreement is like a "paper tiger" to communists. They feel they can easily tear it up when and if it doesn't suit them and use it in a predatory manner when it does.
Tsongi  

Location: U.S.A.
Subject: The Future of Tibet
Oct 29 2008 08:44 PM

The first thing we must do is to stop talking and negotiating with "communist" Chinese, who have reneged on every promise they have made, starting with the 17 Point Agreement, and wait till China become a "true" democratic state. Then, we Tibetan can decide on a course of action befitting the future of our Fatherland. I am convinced that democracy in China will not be too long in coming.

An agreement is like a "paper tiger" to communists. They feel they can easily tear it up when and if it doesn't suit them and use it in a predatory manner when it does.
smithw  

Location: Washington DC
Subject: Self-Determination
Oct 29 2008 12:16 AM

Wangpo Tethong has correctly defined the Tibet issue as self-determination and has correctly advocated S-D as Tibet's best strategy. S-D is the same as independence if Tibetans are really able to decide for themselves, but it has the advantage that it soesn't completely shut the door to the support of sympathetic foreign governments as a policy of independence would. I believe the previous comments (indigenous)have misinterpreted Wangpo's argument as supportive of the Middle Path when he has actually advocated a new strategy that would replace the Middle Path. Wangpo's strategy is more in line with that of Tibetans like Jamyang Norbu, the only difference being in replacing independence with self-determination. Part of the problem with the S-D arguemnt in Tibetan society is that Dharamsala has intentionally confused the definition of S-D to mean autonomy chosen by referendum. S-D means the right to choose whatever political status a people wants at any time, not just at one time under certain circumstances. This is why S-D so accurately defines the Tibet issue and why it is so threatening to China, which knows that even if Tibetans were to at one time choose autonomy they might later want independence.
indigenous  

Location: geneva
Subject: very interesting piece
Oct 28 2008 09:23 PM

Definitely, this is one of the most interesting piece from Phayul and tibetan experts so far!

Thank you so much, Tethong la, for sharing your valuable thoughts on the future of Tibet. I really appreciated your indepth knowledge and objectivity on tibetan issues.

I believe that your question to the tibetan people in exile and to tibet support groups about whether we have managed to act in an appropriate manner to achieve our own goals, is a very concrete and actual question. It is true that Chinese government has succeeded substantially in saving their political interests, but the contrary fact applies to us, Tibetans in exile.

One of the main challenges of us is that we, as TIBETAN ACTIVISTS inspite of our enthusiasm and spirit, still lack skills, competence, holistic education and comprehensive view of the political and economic world. Mainly due to that, inspite of the positive motivation of Tibetan community, we are not capable of providing a VISION that is effective for Tibet's future.

In such circumstances, it wouldn't be surprising to find people and wrong LEADERS (like Jamyang Norbu to quote) who propagates extreme nationalism among Tibetan youths and even violence in tibetan movement as their so called 'vision'. Such leaders and the incompetence of tibetan community to understand the facts, make the visionary stand of his holiness,i.e., the genuine autonomy (which i believe is definitely in the interest of tibetan people provided Chinese govt. implements it), questionable and highly criticised. Ofcourse, Criticisms are permissible in any civilised society, but not propagandas, statements devoid of truth and not racist attitude against Chinese people and its culture as well.

Therefore, making further reflections on present and future of Tibet, We need coherent and objective Tibetans with LEADERSHIP QUALITIES, like his holiness. Otherwise, there is a danger of inciting disunity in Tibetan community, violence in Tibetan movement, wrong visions about Tibet by OUR UNQUALIFIED AND INCOMPETENT LEADERS.

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