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The Special Envoy of the Dalai Lama Mr Lodi Gyari on Saturday told reporters that he did not have “that much of good news to share” of the latest seventh round of talks with China ...
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garuda  

Location: perched over process
Subject: Chinese talk
Jul 06 2008 07:31 PM

Mr. Gyari has a difficult job indeed, for he is possessed of only one tongue, while his Chinese counterparts have not only two tongues, but two faces! We can only expect so much in dealing with devils.

In the hopeful anticipation of a small measure of progress, we have perhaps forgotten the history of brutal atrocities which has been sanctioned, in an ongoing fashion, by the Chinamen Commies we now "chat" with. By what power does one "negotiate" with men who sanction murder, torture, rape, and every kind of unimaginable cruelty?

The Chinese are trying to fool the Tibetan people. What happened to the good old days when Chusi Gangdruk knew what to do with the Dharma's enemies, and when it was the red of Chinese blood, rather than the spilled blood of Tibetan women, that stained the earth in Kham?
Hothoji  

Location: NYC
Subject: useless!!!!!
Jul 06 2008 10:21 AM

hi what happend??? mr, gyari can you stop to go for talk. we knew that it's dosen't work anything... i hope you had funn with them in china while you there.. Gyari ji why you can't say that you don't want go and send some body els. we don't want tolk no more. "WE NO LONGER WANT AUTONOMY. WE WANT NOTHING LESS THAN INDEPENDANCE" ok....
we want free tibet.
china out of tibet now....
i don't have any word for gyari, and wu jing tao. enough is enough.
Dralha  

Location: USA
Subject: Ignorance Chinese Regimes
Jul 06 2008 08:06 AM

Nonvoilent approach does not mean any for these ignorant Chinese Regimes in this world. It also seems to have yet to release the whole world care about human rights, justice, freedom that each of us deserved rather than economic power, arrogant power and dictorship idealogy. Even economic power is neccessary for any society, we must not leave behind the human dignities as justice, rights and freedom. We must also fight continously against the arrogant power,ignorant strategy and dictorship ideology in this planet. If Chinese Regimes persuade continuosly its bad ideological power for longer time, it is not bad idea that minority people use bloodshed sacrifice for minority rights. Even though Buddhists view of point is totally against voilent strategy, I think it is necessary for people to use voilant even we go directly to hell for Tibetan people rights. Thank You
Lindsay  

Location: Lhasa, Rep of Tibet
Subject: Professional News Reporting 101
Jul 06 2008 03:53 AM

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During the two-day talks in Beijing on July 1 and 2, Lodi Gyari was accompanied by Envoy Kelsang Gyaltsen and three other aides from the Task Force on Sino-Tibetan Negotiations.
Unquote

Dear Phubu Thinley,

What do you mean by three other aides ? Are they not high enough to be named names. This team is negotiating with tyrant Chinese regime about the the future of Tibet and its 6 million citizens. Please don't be condescending and show some respect to our own countrymen & women working hard, by dealing with the devil.

Thank you

bleedingtibet  

Location: NYC
Subject: Autonomy is too complicated for morons in Beijing. Let's now fight for Complete Independence!
Jul 06 2008 02:36 AM

“His holiness was also disappointed” Gyari Rinpoche said of the talks, for not seeing any positive signal from the Chinese side this time.

This signals the End of the middle way approach.

We must thank God for revealing us the real intention of the totalitarian Chinese regime in Beijing before it is too late as we still have good enough time to recover from all this shock, get our acts together, organize in best manner, draw new strategy and prepare ourselves to launch our own version of final COMPLETE INDEPENDENCE movement. Only this strategy can defeat the Chinese tyrants in their own games.

Need we say that it is because of His Holiness’s compassionate wisdom that gave birth to the whole concept and idea of ‘middle way’ to make peace with china?

“The Chinese side expressed the view that the dialogue process has been productive and that we need to keep in mind that a half-a-century-old issue of great complexity cannot be resolved in a matter of years.” Gyari and Samdhong Rinpoche. Please do not swayed away by this kind of familiar deceptive traps. Please study in depth and thoroughly the case of the so-called ‘Sino-Indian Border Talks’ started in 1979 and more than twenty rounds of talks and negotiations held between the two nations but in result nil. To their Indian counterpart, the evil incarnate Chinese officials had used same attractive words to fool them and they had succeeded in their Gameplan. Over twenty rounds of border talks and today what Chinese are doing has shocked the whole world. Only last year, Chinese ambassador staked claim over entire Arunachal Pradesh as Chinese territory. Now few days ago it was widely reported that China has created a new trouble for Indian by disputing a piece of area in Sikkim known as finger-area and have even intruded into this area what Indians regard as a blatant provocation. And all this years during the talks held with Indian counterparts, the Chinese have been saying the same clever thing - that the border dispute was a legacy of history and therefore it will require time to resolve. Actually they never intended to solve the problem with India as well. Where is the need to create new problems on border when they already have not found a way to resolve the old ‘disputes’ left from history?

China has demanded action on TYC. Tomorrow they will say same thing for the TGIE. Next they will demand His Holiness to give up political leadership. The whole of exile Tibetan community will not be far away as their ultimate target and most probably they would pressurize host government to deport all the exile Tibetans to Tibet, Nepal being the first soft target.

We Tibetans have very special moral right and duty for fighting for complete independence. because it is not only the issue of liberation and happiness of six million Tibetans but also peace and stability and security of our host nation, India and also democratic rights and genuine happiness of billion plus Chinese citizens who are silently suffering along with our fellow Tibetans under communist totalitarian rulers.

We must make it very clear that Kalon Tripa Rinpoche and his Kashag shall be squarely held responsible for the imminent debacle of this illusive dialogue if they still did not learn the lesson from all this serial failures.

We do believe there can not be any other solution that is more realist in the given situation than the ‘middle way’ approach but that the totalitarian rulers in china have neither respect nor any intention to work for an honorable solution. Because of this lack of sincerity and genuine engagement from the Chinese side, throughout seven rounds of talks, TGIE's ‘middle way’ proposal has been rendered one sided effort. This has left no room for any kind of hope in future from this strategy howsoever noble and realistic it is. Simply put, the Chinese dictators are cleverly wasting away our precious times, wearing away our patience and resourcefulness of our envoys and that of TGIE.

Do we need any stronger proof to show what they are really waiting for?

One thing more. PLEASE REMEMBER SO FAR EVEN IF THERE IS A SINGLE Tibetan IN THE FREE WORLD OUT SIDE Tibet, THERE WILL ALWAYS REMAIN HOPE FOR THE TIBETANS INSIDE TIBET.

SO FAR WE REAMIN OUTSIDE Tibet, WE CAN CHANGE THE DESTINY OF OUR COUNTRY. ONCE WE CHOOSE TO RETURN TO OCCUPIED Tibet AND ACCEPT CHINESE RULE THAT IS END OF OUR NATION! PLEASE ALL GANGCHENPAS MARK MY WORD!

THIS IS THE TIME EVERY Tibetan MUST BE SERIOUSLY WORRIED OF THE FUTURE OF OUR NATION AND PEOPLE AND THINK SERIOUSLY ABOUT OUR SITUATION AND WAYS AND MEANS TO CONSOLIDATE OUR FORCE TO RE-ENERGIZE OUR MOVEMENT HUNDRED TIMES MORE POWERFUL AND FORCEFUL THAN BEFORE!


LLHHDD  

Location: New York
Subject: Long Live Dalai Lama
Jul 05 2008 10:17 PM

Once again HH envoys fail to come back with hopeful result which every tibetans hoping for.we r losing hope.I really hate this F***ing China that why they blame HH for this unrest when they thenselves r the main problem creator.I spit on u red chinese.Forget about heaven , you will not get room in Hell too when you finally leaves this world.
indigenous  

Location: uk
Subject: freedom!
Jul 05 2008 07:54 PM

the issue is neither about independence nor about autonomy. it is clear that we don't have autonomy (so we can't say we don't want autonomy)at all and independence becomes a far outcry.

so if the talk did not yield any tangible results, it means that china is not compromising to give self rule in tibet as prescribed by the chinese constitution and hence, since there is no rule of law, the CCP is violating the provisions of their own constitution.

free tibet and free china!
Tsongi  

Location: Kartze
Subject: Celebrated Tourists
Jul 05 2008 07:25 PM

Did you envoys enjoy the sumptuous lunches and dinners, the sightseeing and the entertainment in China?

What did you go there for?
inissini  

Location: Bhutan
Subject: More than ever before
Jul 05 2008 05:35 PM

Now more than ever before, we should do away with the middle path and go for FULL INDEPENDANCE.

TGIE, please stop negotiating with China.
I personally think that Gyari Lodi and Kelsang Gyaltsen did the best they could under the circumstance.
But now, we must rely on move active engagement, if necessary violant activism to free ourselves.
The firt step would be declare that "WE NO LONGER WANT AUTONOMY. WE WANT NOTHING LESS THAN INDEPENDANCE"
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